YOU HAVE SAID THAT EVERY GESTURE FROM A MASTER IS SIGNIFICANT, AND OFTEN THE
ANSWER IS GIVEN IN WHAT IS NOT SAID RATHER THAN WHAT IS SAID. BUT OFTEN WHEN
YOU LOOK OR GLANCE AT ME, AND I FEEL THERE IS A MESSAGE, I DO NOT KNOW HOW TO
IDENTIFY THE MESSAGE WITHOUT USING MY MIND. AND EVEN WHEN I DO USE MY MIND I
AM NOT SURE.
THE MIND CANNOT BE USED. Once you use the mind you have missed the point.
Silence has to be understood in silence; a no-word message is to be understood
wordlessly. If you try to understand through words and through mind you will
miss it, you will misunderstand it. Then your own mind has come in. Then you
will interpret it. Then it will not be pure, it will not be the same.
And if you ask, "Then what to do?" you ask a wrong question. The question of
how arises from the mind. There is no question of how. You be silent. Don't do
anything, don't try to interpret it, don't try in any way to interfere with it
-- let it spread over your being. You may not be able to identify it right now
because it is vaster than the mind and all identifications are from the mind.
You may not be able to know exactly what it is, but there is no need. You may
not be able to decipher, decode the meaning of it, but there is no need. Let
the wordless message reach to your wordless center. It is a deep contact, and
the contact is the meaning. It is a deep penetration, and the penetration is
You pass by a rosebush and you look at a roseflower. What is the meaning?
If-you start thinking about the roseflower, the mind enters and the roseflower
is lost. Then the mind creates a wall of words, thoughts, concepts and you
cannot even see the roseflower there.
Don't try to find the meaning. Meaning and a constant obsession with meaning
is a disease of the mind. What is the meaning of a roseflower? There is no
meaning. It flowers without any meaning. It needs no meaning to justify
itself; it is justified in its being. You just let it be, and you be with it.
Let the rose penetrate you, let the rose spread its fragrance around you and
within you, and suddenly something stirs within your being -- something has
arisen. The rose has done something in you. Even then, you may not be able to
know what the rose has done but you will feel happier, blissful; you will feel
there has been a contact with the unknown. You will feel that you have been
given an opportunity to look into the unknown. You will feel that the rose has
become a window and a vast sky has opened -- there has been a crack in the
wall of your mind, and a ray of light penetrated. Don't bother about the
When I am looking at you, you simply look at me! When I am giving you my
being, you give your being to me. Be available, let it be a contact. It is not
a communication, it is a communion. I am not communicating a certain message
which can be deciphered, decoded -- no. I am giving myself to you in that
gesture. It is bigger than any meaning that can be given to it -- and you are
also bigger. If the contact happens, you will feel that boundaries have
dissolved. For a moment you were not there. For a moment you were possessed by
me -- and not only by me but, through me, by the whole. So whenever I look at
you, whenever I want to penetrate into your eyes, whenever I knock at your
door, at your heart, open the doors.
Don't try to find the meaning. In finding the meaning you will miss the
meaning -- because the contact is the meaning, a deep inner embrace is the
The second question:
MY MIND IS IN SUCH A STATE OF CONFUSION THAT IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO REMAIN IN
THE MIDDLE. WOULDN'T IT BE BETTER TO FOLLOW THE MIND IN ALL ITS EXTREMES SO
THAT I CAN EXPERIENCE THE WHOLE ABSURDITY OF IT?
The first part of the question:
MY MIND IS IN SUCH A STATE OF CONFUSION THAT IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO REMAIN IN
I AM NOT SAYING that you should remain in the middle. If you try to remain in
the middle you will never be in the middle. The middle is a balance; you
cannot try to be there. You will have to lean to the left, you will have to
lean to the right. Don't cling to any position. Be free. And between leaning
to the left and leaning to the right, somewhere a subtle point arises in you.
It is not outside of you. If you go to look outside there is left and right;
there is no middle.
It is just like time. Space and time are together. Try to understand. If you
look at the clock there is past and there is future, there is no present. Your
clock never says what the present is -- it cannot say, because the moment it
has said it, it is already the past. So the hands of the clock move from the
past to the future; there is no present in your clock -- cannot be. Present is
not part of time. You have learned in your schools and your universities that
the present is part of time -- that is absurd. Present is not part of time.
You have heard it repeated so many times that time is divided into three
tenses -- past, present and future -- that it has become a conditioning in
your mind. No. Time has only two divisions: past and future.
Then where is the present? The present is in you. If you look out, you will
find past and future; if you look in, you will find the present and always the
present. There is no past and no future -- there cannot be.
Inwards you move, and you move into the eternity of the present; outwards you
move, either you move into the past or you move into the future.
And the same is true about space -- in space there is either left or right.
If you lean towards the left it is outside, if you lean towards the right it
is also outside. But if you gain a balance between the two, suddenly you are
in. The middle point is within you, it is not a part of space outside. In
fact, the present and the middle are together. Whenever you are in the present
you are in the middle, whenever you are in the middle you are in the present.
The middle is not a position outside you. It is an inner phenomenon just like
So when I say or Lao Tzu says, "Be balanced," we are not saying make balance
a static phenomenon in your life. It cannot be static, you will have to
continuously maintain it, moving to the left and the right. In that movement
sometimes you will pass the innermost point of your being and suddenly you
will be in the middle. And suddenly you will find an implosion -- not an
explosion. Implosion. Something inside implodes; suddenly you are no more the
same. Whenever you pass the position of the middle inside, you are no more the
same -- you become intensely alive, you become intensely innocent, you become
intensely pure and holy. In that moment there exists no darkness for you, no
sin, no guilt. You are divine, you are a God whenever you can find that
balance. But you cannot find it once and for all -- no. Life is always a
constant balancing, a continuity, a continuum. You cannot make it a commodity
that you purchased once and now it is always there in your house. No. If you
are not aware you will miss it again and again.
This is the first part of your question: the middle is not a fixed point
outside. You can reach it from either point, or try to gain a balance moment
to moment between the opposites -- hate in love, anger in compassion.
Go on balancing between the opposites. By and by you will come to feel the
knack of it. Somewhere between hate and love it happens. I say "somewhere" --
the point cannot be figured out; it is such an alive phenomenon that you
cannot pinpoint it. It is just like butterflies flying in the garden -- if you
catch a butterfly and pin it down it is dead. You can pin it down but it is no
more a butterfly, the life has left it.
Just like a butterfly is the inner balance, you cannot pin it down. That's
why it is indefinable, elusive. Says Lao Tzu: The Tao that can be said is no
more Tao. The truth that can be uttered has already become untrue. Indian
scriptures say "That" cannot be known by scriptures. nayam atma pravachanen
labhya. You cannot understand "That" by any verbal communication. "That" is
elusive because it is so alive. By the time you reach it the butterfly has
gone. Just go and see. Move in the garden. You come nearer and nearer and the
butterfly is getting ready to take off. When you are nearly at the point of
catching it it has left the flower, it is already on another tree. You cannot
pin it down. If you can, it is dead.
I was reading just yesterday one of the very perceptive poets of the West,
Wallace Stevens. In one of his maxims he says Aristotle is a skeleton. I liked
it. Logic is a skeleton. Logic is always of the dead, of death. It does not
belong to life. Anything fixed is always dead -- that's why I say marriage is
a butterfly pinned down; love is an alive phenomenon.
You can define marriage, you cannot define love. Even a court can decide what
marriage is or is not, but nobody can decide what love is. Marriage is legal;
love transcends all legality -- something of the unknown penetrates into love,
into the phenomenon of love.
Inner balance cannot be pinned down, you will have to find the knack of it.
And you can find it -- because if I can find it, why not you? If Lao Tzu can
find it, why not you? If one man finds the inner balance, the inner
tranquility, the inner still small voice, the inner knack that passeth all
understanding, then every human being becomes capable of it. In Lao Tzu is
your future, your possibility. You can also do it.
MY MIND IS IN SUCH A STATE OF CONFUSION THAT IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO REMAIN IN
Don't try to remain in the middle, forget about the middle. You just try to
be balanced. Move into the opposites but always remain alert so that someday
you can find the balance between the two. And you are doing it -- only
awareness is needed. Just a moment before you were happy, then in another
moment you are unhappy. You have moved to the opposite. You must have passed
through the middle. How can you move to the opposite without passing through
the middle? Maybe you passed it for only a fragment of a second, but that is
not the point; you passed it. If you had been a little alert you would have
known where the middle was. Just now you are so silent, then a single minute
passes and your whole mind starts chattering. You must have passed the middle
When a man dies he is alive just a moment before, then he is dead. If he is
alert he will find the middle which is beyond death and life, which is
deathless. But he is not alert. You have died many times; millions of times,
in fact, you have passed the middle but you are not alert. And every day you
pass the middle many times, thousands of times: compassion and anger, a man
feeling so good and suddenly so bad, a man feeling so saintly in the
morning.... Look at people praying near the Ganges or in the temple -- look at
their faces, so beautiful. The ugliest faces become beautiful when there is
prayer. And then look at them in the market -- even the most beautiful face
looks ugly. They must have passed it somewhere -- from the temple to the
market there must have been a middle point -- but they were not aware.
So what is to be done? Don't try to be in the middle. I'm not saying try a
little anger and a little compassion together -- no. I'm not saying try to be
in the middle -- you will go mad. I am saying move from one opposite to
another, but move so alertly that you can find the middle point inside you.
The moment you find the middle point, for the first time you become the master
of your life. Up to now you have been just a slave. For the first time you
become awake -- up to now you have been fast asleep.
And the second part of the question:
WOULD NOT IT BE BETTER TO FOLLOW THE MIND IN ALL ITS EXTREMES SO THAT I CAN
EXPERIENCE THE WHOLE ABSURDITY OF IT?
Nobody has ever been able to experience the whole absurdity of the mind. It
is infinite. You will not be able to experience the whole of it; it is very
creative, it goes on creating new absurdities. You have been here in this
existence so long and yet you have not been able to experience the whole
absurdity of it. You are not for the first time on this planet earth, you have
been here before. I can see your ancient faces, hidden behind your fresh skin.
You are ancient ones.
There was a teacher in Buddha's time in India; his name was Prakuddha
Katyayana. He was a rare teacher. He always addressed his disciples as ancient
ones. Even if a child came to see Prakuddha Katyayana he would say, "How are
you, ancient one?" Because everyone is so old, older than the earth. The earth
is not very old, just... in fact, very young, adolescent. But you are older
than the earth, you have been on other planets. You are older than the sun.
You have been here since existence has been here, otherwise it is not possible
-- you cannot suddenly bubble up. How can you happen so suddenly? You have
been here all the way.
One of the most important American psychologists, William James, was writing
a book which became a very important milestone in the history of psychology
and religion. The name of the book is VARIETIES OF RELIGIOUS EXPERIENCE. He
traveled all around the world to collect material for the book. Many books
have been written since then on religion, but no book has yet reached that
peak. William James worked hard on it. He also came to India, he had to -- if
you are writing a book on religion then India becomes a must.
He came to India and he went to see a sage in the Himalayas. He does not give
the name; in fact sages have no names, so there is no need. He went to see the
sage and he asked a question. He had been reading an Indian scripture in which
it is said that the earth is supported on eight white elephants.
He was puzzled -- he was a logician -- so he asked the sage, "This looks
absurd. On what are those eight elephants standing? How are they supported?"
The sage said, "On another eight white and bigger elephants."
William James said, "But that doesn't solve the problem. On what are those
bigger white elephants standing? "
The sage laughed and he said, "Elephants on elephants, elephants on
elephants, all the way down. You can go on asking," said the sage, "and I will
go on answering the same thing -- to the very bottom."
So William James thought that once more the question could be asked: "And on
what is that bottom being supported?" The sage said, "Of course, eight bigger
It goes on and on -- of course it has to be so. If you move backwards you
will find yourself again and again and again. Otherwise how could you be here?
You are supported by your past life, that's why you are here. And your past
life is supported by another past life -- that's why you were in your past
life. And this goes on and on and you cannot ask, "How did I come for the
first time?" You never came for the first time because even before that you
were. Even before the first time you were supported by a past life --
elephants on elephants, elephants on elephants. Hindus are really beautiful.
They create absurd stories, but those stories have deep meanings and
significances. You are here only because the whole past -- not your past, the
whole past of existence -- is supporting you. You are the whole past and yet
you have not been able to exhaust all the absurdities. Do you think it will
ever be possible to exhaust all the absurdities of the mind? No, nobody has
ever been able to. If you become aware, even one day is enough. If you remain
unaware, even millions of lives are not enough. If you become aware, even a
single moment is enough to see the absurdity of the mind. And if you go on
sleeping and snoring then you can go on sleeping and snoring. That's how you
have been in the past, the same you can be in the future.
No, by sleeping you will never exhaust the absurdities of the mind. Don't
hope; that is hopeless. That cannot be done. It is impossible. Become alert.
It is time, in fact it is already getting late. Become alert, and suddenly you
can see. Because absurdities cannot be exhausted by experiencing, they can
only be exhausted by experiencing with awareness. By experience alone you will
not be able to exhaust them.
You love one woman but the relationship becomes stale and everything goes
wrong. Then you start thinking of another woman. The mind says, "This woman is
not right for you, but there exists a right woman. You try to find her. You
got hooked with the wrong woman, that's why the problem has arisen." The
problem has not arisen because of this woman -- remember. If you are alert you
will see the problem has arisen because of desire, not because of this woman.
But the mind says, "Leave this woman, divorce, move to another." And with
another the same thing happens -- the mind again says, "Find someone else."
And you go on and on and on. And the mind will always hope that somebody will
turn up someday and everything will be right, and you will be in heaven.
It has not happened, it is not going to happen. Otherwise there would be no
need of religion, no need of yoga, no need of Tao. By and by everybody would
have come to the right life -- but it never happens. But hope goes on winning
over experience, and to the very end you go on hoping that someday, somehow,
everything will be good.
Hope is the basis of all absurdities and the existence is such that with
ignorance and a sleeping mind there is no hope. Become alert.
It happened: Alexander was coming towards India. He met Diogenes on the way.
Diogenes was a rare Being -- if Diogenes had met Lao Tzu, they both would have
sat and laughed and laughed and laughed. They are of the same quality.
Alexander was passing. He heard that Diogenes was just nearby so he went to
see him. Even Alexander was impressed by the man, even Alexander felt puny
before him. Diogenes was a naked fakir, he had nothing, but his being was such
-- so magnetic, so powerful -- that Alexander was impressed, very impressed.
In fact it is said that he was never impressed again by any other man.
He asked the secret of it: "How have you become so powerful, not having
anything? And I am a world conqueror, I have almost won the whole world. Just
a little more is left; soon I will finish. And you -- a naked man, having
nothing -- what is the secret of your happiness?"
Diogenes is reported to have said, "I renounced hope. That is the secret. And
I tell you, you also renounce hope; otherwise you will always suffer."
Alexander said, "I will come to you to learn the secret, but not now. I am on
the way -- half the world, more than half the world I have won, but there is a
remaining part. I have to become a world conqueror, then I will come."
Diogenes said, "Nobody has ever been a world conqueror. Something or other
always remains to be done. The dream is never complete and the desire is never
fulfilled. If you really understand me, and if you really see that I am happy
without bothering about winning the whole world, then you can also be happy
Logically, intellectually, Alexander understood it. But he said, "I will come
later. This is not the right time for me."
When he was leaving Diogenes, Diogenes said, "Remember, you will die before
you have conquered the world; everybody has died and you cannot be an
And it happened. Alexander never reached back home. Returning from India, he
died on the way. He must have remembered Diogenes, that naked fakir, in his
And then there has been another story; I cannot vouch for it. There is a
story that on the same day Diogenes also died. And they met on the way to the
other world, passing the river that flows between this world and that. They
met on the river. Diogenes started laughing loudly, and he said, "Look, do you
remember, you fool? You died, and you died in the middle, and the victory was
Just to save his face, Alexander also tried to laugh but he could not. Just
to save his face he said, "Yes, this is strange, the meeting of an emperor and
a naked beggar in this river. It may not have happened before, it may not
Diogenes laughed even more uproariously and he said, "You are right, but you
don't understand who is the emperor and who is the slave. And who is the
emperor and who is the beggar -- that you don't know exactly. There you are
wrong, otherwise you are right: it is the meeting of an emperor and a beggar,
but I am the emperor and you are the beggar. You were begging for the whole
world -- you are the biggest beggar ever. And I lived like an emperor, but
look what has happened to your empire...."
Now even Alexander was naked -- because everything has to be left on this
shore -- and he was feeling very shy and awkward, embarrassed. But Diogenes
was not embarrassed. He said, "Knowing this well, that someday one has to
become naked, I threw away those clothes myself. Now look how embarrassed you
are feeling before God. I will stand laughing, and you will feel guilty and
embarrassed and everything. Everything is wrong around you."
There is no possibility of exhausting the absurdities. Even Alexanders never
exhaust them. If you want to exhaust them the only way is to become aware. The
more aware you are the more absurdities look like absurdities. When they look
like absurdities, when you see them as absurd, you simply stop. You don't do
them anymore. There is no need to renounce anything in the world -- one has
just to be aware and things which are useless, meaningless, drop by
themselves, on their own accord.
The third question:
EVERY RELIGION DEGENERATES INTO A MORALISTIC INSTITUTION. YOU COMMEND LAO TZU
BECAUSE NO RELIGION COULD GROW FROM HIS WAY. HOW CAN THOSE WHO LOVE YOU AVOID
SUCH AN INSTITUTIONAL DEGENERATION OF YOUR INSPIRATION?
IF YOU START AVOIDING, you have already started creating it. Don't bother
about it. If it is going to happen it is going to happen; if it is not going
to happen it is not going to happen. You don't bother about it, because if you
start wondering how to avoid it you have already taken for granted that it is
going to be there. You have already become self-conscious about it -- and that
will help to create it.
Buddha tried hard to see that his religion would remain an alive phenomenon
and not a dead institution. He tried hard -- but he failed. The harder he
tried, the more people tried to create an institution around him.
Krishnamurti is trying hard -- and he will fail, because this is the law. Why
are you trying so hard? You must be afraid deep down that it is going to
happen. And if even Krishnamurti thinks that it is going to happen, it is
going to happen. I have talked to you many times about the law of reverse
effect. It is a very deep psychological law: do something and just the reverse
happens. That's the whole teaching of Lao Tzu. He said: Talk about order and
there will be disorder. Try to make people moral and there will be immorality.
Try to make people be good and they will be bad.
And you all know that this happens. Try to make your child be saintly and you
will create the first revolt in him against you. He will go against you; he
will do exactly what you wanted him not to do.
It never happened with Lao Tzu because he was never worried about it. If it
happens it is okay -- what can you do?
When I am gone, I am gone. Whatsoever happens is none of my business. So
don't be worried about it. If it happens it had to happen. If it doesn't
happen, good; if it happens, that too is good. Who are we to take the
responsibility for the future? Who are we to decide for the future? No, it
cannot be done. Simply drop the whole idea. Don't be worried. Drop the idea
completely and don't be worried; don't try to create it and don't try to avoid
it. While I am here be with me, celebrate with me, delight in me. Let me help
you, allow me -- that's all. When I am gone and you are gone, whatever
happens... how can we decide it and why should we worry about it? While we are
here we should use the opportunity, the door that has opened, the path that
has become visible for you -- tread on it, walk on it; whether people create
an institution out of it or not is for them to decide. And nothing can be done
about it right now.
For the future, never create any worry, because your very worry will create
the reverse effect. Have you watched? -- if you travel in a train, just have a
look around. You can judge who is traveling without a ticket because he is
constantly worried about the ticket checker -- the law of reverse effect. He
looks afraid, he looks worried. Whenever somebody enters the compartment he
looks startled. You can simply see who has come without a ticket -- he is
creating his own difficulty around him.
And sometimes it happens that you have purchased a ticket, and it has fallen
out of your pocket but you are not aware of it. You don't know that you don't
have the ticket. Then you walk and you sit as if you have the ticket. Nobody
can judge, nobody can catch you; even the ticket checker will not come to you.
He knows that you must have the ticket. People are always surprised that when
they have tickets nobody comes to check, and when they don't have the ticket
suddenly the ticket checker comes, because he has become aware of this small
law -- that you can judge who is the culprit. There is no difficulty about it.
He cannot be natural, he creates his own unnatural vibrations around him.
Immediately the ticket checker goes to him.
Don't bother. You are here; the phenomenon is alive right now, vibrating,
talking to you, penetrating you, helping you. You just delight in it. And if
you delight in it and if you yourself become a lighted phenomenon inside,
others will delight in you.
An alive religion is alive because people are still enlightened in it, people
are still aware in it. If you become aware with me you can help others to be
aware with you -- it is a chain reaction. Once awareness disappears, the chain
disappears; a gap comes, an interval where nobody is alert, nobody is awakened
-- then religion is dead. Then it becomes a sect -- Hindu, Mohammedan, Jain.
Then it becomes a church -- then rituals, then just dead gestures.
But nothing can be done about it. Rather, only one thing can be done about it
and that is -- you don't bother, because you can waste your time thinking
about it. You just live within me and allow me to live within you. Soon you
will be able... through your lighted candle other candles can be lighted.
Create chains and they will move on their own.
And never think of the morrow. Future is not a concern at all. Only the
The fourth question:
YOU SAY I AM AN EMPTINESS. SINCE BEING HERE I AM BEGINNING TO FEEL MY OWN
CENTER. HOW DOES THE CENTER EXIST IN EMPTINESS?
IT EXISTS. I cannot explain to you how or why, it is a simple fact. Just as
science says H20 is water... two parts hydrogen, one part oxygen -- two atoms
of hydrogen, one atom of oxygen -- and the combination is water. You cannot
ask why. Why not three parts hydrogen, one part oxygen? Why not four parts
oxygen, one part hydrogen? Why H20, why not otherwise? Science will shrug its
shoulders, it will say: We don't know. It is how it is.
Yes, your inner being is an emptiness and yet a center exists. Have you seen
a cyclone? In summer days in India there are cyclones, whirlwinds. Go and look
when the whirlwind has gone: it has disturbed every particle of dust around,
but just in the center there is no disturbance. Even to a whirlwind a center
exists, even to a cyclone a center exists, even to emptiness a center exists.
One comes upon it, it is a fact of existence -- no how to it.
A small boy was walking with D.H. Lawrence in a garden, and he suddenly
asked, "Why are trees green?"
D. H. Lawrence said, "Trees are green because they are green.
Nothing more can be said about it. All explanations are useless because you
can say because of this, because of that -- but that too again brings the same
question: Why? It is absurd that a center exists to emptiness -- it is
illogical, it is irrational. But life is irrational. One has to accept life --
life is in no way to be forced to accept your logic or reason.
It happens every day in science. When for the first time Einstein said that
everything is relative, even time is relative, the whole old world of science
was disturbed. People started asking: Why? How? One very absurd thing Einstein
said, and that is: if a traveler goes into infinite space on a journey in a
vehicle which moves faster than light -- light moves at one hundred and
eighty-six thousand miles per second -- if the vehicle moves faster than light
or even equal to light, and if your son goes on a journey into space and comes
back after twenty-five years, he will still be of the same age. If he had gone
at twenty-five years of age, he will remain twenty-five years of age. His
friends will have become fifty years old here on the earth but he will remain
the same age. It is absurd. People started asking, "What is the logic?"
Einstein said, "I cannot say what the logic is, but it is so."
At such a tremendous speed you cannot age. It is just like at a hundred
degrees the water evaporates, that's all. At such a tremendous speed you
cannot age; you will remain the same. And even more absurd -- if the speed can
be doubled you will come back younger than when you left. If you had gone at
twenty years of age and you come back after ten years, you will be ten years
of age. You will move backwards in time -- because, Einstein said, aging
depends on speed, on the speed of the earth. The earth is moving at a
particular speed; on that speed depends your aging. Impossible to believe!
Contradictory to all logic!
Then physicists penetrated into matter and suddenly one day they found there
is no matter. So they had to say that matter consists of emptiness; they had
to say that matter is nothing but dense emptiness. This looks illogical. How
can emptiness be dense? How can this pillar be created out of dense emptiness?
But now physics says it is so. And nature and existence do not follow our
logic. They have their own ways and we cannot force our logic on them; our
logic has to follow their ways. The same is true about inner space. Of course,
logic says: How can emptiness have a center? Logically it cannot. When for the
first time I came to that center the same question arose in me also: How can
emptiness have a center?
To have a center something is needed -- and it is there, but it doesn't
listen to our logic. Accept it, and don't create any logical problem in your
mind, because that is not going to help. Life is illogical. You are here. Have
you any logic to say why you are here? If you were not here, could you ask why
you are not here? Things simply are. Nothing can be claimed, nothing can be
posed, nothing can be projected, nothing can be asked. When you grow into this
awareness: that things simply are -- then a deep acceptance happens. Then even
if they are illogical you accept. You don't fight, you float. You don't even
swim -- you simply are in a let-go.
And by and by more and more mysteries are revealed. That's why religion says
that life is a mystery, not a problem. A problem can be solved; a mystery can
never be solved. The more you solve it the more mysterious it becomes. The
more you know it the more you feel has to be known. The more you come nearer
the more you feel you are far away.
The Upanishads say God is both far and near. Why? Because the nearer you go
the farther away you feel he is. You almost touch him -- and you feel far
away. You almost penetrate him, you are almost in his heart, but still the
mystery is not dissolved. On the contrary, the mystery has become more
mysterious. And that is the beauty of it. Just think of a world where all
mysteries are solved -- how boring it would be! Just think of a world which is
absolutely logical, rational, mathematical -- how boring and monotonous it
would be! Then there would be no possibility of poetry, there would be no
possibility of romance, there would be no possibility of love, and there would
be no possibility at all for any meditation.
Meditation is to enter into the mystery; love is to knock at the same door in
a different way. Prayer is also to allow the mystery, and not to struggle
against it with the mind.
Everything is beautiful because everything is mysterious, and you cannot get
to the bottom of it. Analyze if you want to analyze, but every analysis will
create more problems, more mysteries; the answer, the final answer, cannot be
found. And it is good that it cannot be found. If it is found then what? Then
the very meaning and significance is lost.
I am not a philosopher, not in the least; I am just a poet at the most. I
look at life and accept its facticity. If it makes two plus two four, okay. If
it makes two plus two five, okay. If it makes two plus two three, okay. I have
said yes to it. And this is what to be religious means to me -- to say yes, it
The fifth question:
IS CARLOS CASTANEDA'S GURU, DON JUAN, AN ENLIGHTENED MASTER?
IF THERE WERE someone like Don Juan he would be enlightened, he would be like
a Buddha or a Lao Tzu -- but there is nobody like Don Juan. Carlos Castaneda's
books are ninety-nine per cent fiction -- beautiful, artful, but fiction. As
there are scientific fictions, there are spiritual fictions also. There are
third-rate spiritual fictions and first-rate ones: if you want third-rate,
then read Lobsang Rampa; if you want first-rate, then read Carlos Castaneda.
He is a great master -- of fiction.
But I say ninety-nine per cent fiction. One per cent of truth is there,
hidden here and there; you will have to find it. It is good even to read it as
fiction. Don't bother about Rampa's fiction, because it is rubbish created by
a mediocre mind -- and of course created for mediocre minds. But Carlos
Castaneda is worth reading. When I say fiction I don't mean don't read him, I
mean read him more carefully, because one per cent of truth is there. You will
have to read it very carefully, but don't swallow it completely because it is
ninety-nine per cent fiction.
It can help your growth -- it can create a desire to grow. That's why I say
it is beautiful. But it can hinder growth also if you take it at its surface
This man Carlos is really crafty, very clever. Rarely it happens, such
cleverness -- because it is very easy to create scientific fiction, not much
imagination is needed, but to create spiritual fiction is very very difficult;
one needs a great artistic and imaginary mind. Because things you don't know,
how can you even imagine them? That's why I say one per cent of truth is
there. On that one per cent of truth he has been able to create a big edifice.
On that one per cent of truth he has been able to project much imagination. On
that one iota of truth he has made the whole house, a beautiful palace -- a
fairy tale. But that one per cent of truth is there, otherwise it would have
So one per cent of Don Juan must be there somewhere or other. He must have
met somebody; maybe his name was Don Juan, maybe not, that is not material,
that doesn't matter. Carlos has come across a being superior to himself, he
has come across a being who knows some secrets. Maybe he has not realized
them, maybe he has stolen them, maybe he has just borrowed them from someone
else. But he has met somebody who has somehow got some facts of spiritual life
and this man has been able to create imagination around it. And the
imagination becomes possible if you use drugs as a help -- very easy, because
drugs are nothing but an aid to imagination.
This man has come across some being who knows something, and then through
drugs, LSD and others, he has projected that small truth into imaginary
worlds. Then his whole fiction is created. It is a drug trip, but a good
experiment in itself. And when I say all these things I am not condemning
Carlos. In fact I have come to love the man. It is a rare flight of
imagination, and if it is a hundred per cent fiction then Carlos himself is a
rare being. If he has not come across anybody at all then he must have that
one per cent of reality in himself. Because otherwise it is impossible -- you
can only build a house on a foundation, even an imaginary house needs at least
a foundation in reality. You can make a house of cards but at least the
ground, the solid ground is needed. That much is true.
So read, because you will have to read. Every age has its own fictions,
romances; one has to pass through them. You will have to read. You cannot
escape Carlos Castaneda. But remember that only one per cent is true -- and
you have to find it.
If you have been reading Gurdjieff's books, particularly ALL AND EVERYTHING,
then you can become artful about how to find the true, how to sort out chaff
from wheat. If you have not read ALL AND EVERYTHING, it is a good beginning.
First you should read ALL AND EVERYTHING of George Gurdjieff and then you can
read Carlos Castaneda's books. It is a very difficult training to read
Gurdjieff; in fact no more than a few dozen people exist in the world who have
read his book ALL AND EVERYTHING completely. It is difficult. It is a one
thousand-page book and Gurdjieff is a master of hiding things. He goes on
saying irrelevant things, useless things, spinning tales within tales --
hundreds of pages and then one line of truth, but it is worth seeking, it is a
diamond. A hundred pages of rubbish, but then comes a diamond -- it is worth
If you can find the diamonds in Gurdjieff it will be a great training for
you. And then you can find in Carlos Castaneda what is true and what is not
true. Otherwise you can become a victim of a fiction. And I think many
Americans particularly are roaming in Mexico in search of Don Juan. Foolish!
The sixth question:
LIKE TILOPA AND BODHIDHARMA, DO YOU THINK YOU WILL HAVE TO LEAVE INDIA TO
FIND A SUITABLE SUCCESSOR?
YOU FOOLS! Can't you see I have already left India? I am no more here in
And the last question... Chinmaya has been asking this question continuously
for many days, and I have been avoiding it. But now it is time. He has been
ARE ALL ENLIGHTENED MASTERS BALD?
AND NOW I cannot avoid it any more, because in the effort to become bald he
has shaved his head.
There exists no relationship, so don't try to be bald.
Bald people are very clever, they create rumors about themselves. One rumor
they have created all around the world is that they are potentially more
sexual than anybody else. Of course bald people are not so sexually
attractive; they have to create rumors around themselves. All over the world
in all countries the rumor exists that bald people are more sexual, more
potential sexually than anybody else. This is a trick.
But now to create another rumor that bald people are the only ones who become
enlightened will be too much!
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